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Censorship at the Local Level - RF Cafe Forums
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Kirt Blattenberger
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Post subject: Censorship at the Local Level
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:13 am
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Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2003 2:02 pm Posts: 878
Location: Erie, PA |
Greetings: Those of you who follow the illegal immigration issue (both in the
U.S. and in other countries) might be interested in my encounter with the editor of
my local newspaper, the Mt. Airy News. Here is the hyperlink to the dialog:
https://www.mtairynews.com/articles/2008 ... blog03.txt I consider this to
be a significant issue for two reasons. First, Mr. Andy Matthews has extensively used
his bully pulpit as editor to advocate for toleration and acceptance of illegal immigration
ever since he was installed into the position last spring. Second, he has redacted a
paragraph of my post (12th in the list) for no good reason. His excuse is that it constitutes
a personal attack, which I contested ( see below for exactly
what I wrote). When confronted with the issue, he would not address my objection.
This smacks of censorship and downright unfair treatment.
Here is the final paragraph that he omitted (addressed to
an anonymous participant):
“Since you are hiding behind an anonymous screen name,
we cannot determine who you are or what your motives might be. You, yourself could be
an illegal alien, or a local farmer, construction or landscaping company, hotel owner,
or any other person who is personally profiting from the use of illegal labor – possibly
paying off-the-record. You can refute the supposition, but without identifying yourself,
it will be meaningless.” Here is the note
I wrote to object to his censorship:
"Greetings Andy:
I see that the last
paragraph of my latest post was omitted. If it was unintentional, then please add it
back to the post and ignore the following. I thank you for doing so.
If the omission
was intentional, then the act amounts to censorship in a manner that is incongruent
with the concept of the free press which you as a newspaper editor represent. A personal
attack must, by definition, be directed toward a person. The anonymous monikers used
here – other than by you and me - are not identifiable persons.
In fact, the
last paragraph was intentionally designed to be provocative to the extent that it might
foster a more honest exchange of ideas, where the participants meet on an even playing
field that includes identity disclosure. Hiding behind any form of anonymity, particularly
when making bold claims, is pure folly – the Internet is full of it."
Mr. Matthews has complete control over what is posted and decides what the public
will see. That makes all the material he personally edits suspect, in my opinion. I
duly cancelled my subscription to his newspaper, because his actions have proven The
Mt. Airy News to be untrustworthy under his reign.
_________________ - Kirt Blattenberger
RF Cafe Progenitor & Webmaster
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James King
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:09 am
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Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2003 3:20 pm Posts: 12
Location: Midwest |
Hi Kirt
I am in total agreement with you. Regardless of your position on the
matter, the editor of a newspaper should not be censoring your input for such a trivial
reason. The impression he leaves is that you let loose with a severe personal attack
on somebody and he did the heroic job of not exposing the unsuspecting public to it.
I actually took a little time to read through some of Andy's writings and you
are correct in saying that his enthusiastic support to illegal immigrants is suspect.
Do you know if he or someone in his family owns a farm, or other business that is using
illegal laborers? I'd check into it if I were you.
Keep us posted. This guy
really needs to be put in place.
James King
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Jose Arrina
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:09 pm
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Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:01 am Posts: 42
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Here is a recent article from the UK that talks about the problem of illegal immigration
there. 500,000 fewer Britons in work following
influx of Eastern Europeans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770 It's happening everywhere
and the damn politicians are sell us all short for illegal votes. What can we do to
stop them? Anybody got any ideas?
_________________ ... Jose' Arrina
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Ralph Zappa
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:00 pm
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Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:43 pm Posts: 28
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You are quite correct Jose, we are dealing with out own version of your uncontrolled
illegal immigration disaster here (I assume you are from America). We here in Britain
- and the EU in general - are reaping the rewards of our open arms policy. We have gotten
exactly what we invited. London was recently designated as the world's most admirable
city due to our divertisy. The downside is that I never visit there anymore because
it is unrecognisable from my boyhood familarity with the city. It has changed profoundly.
I am no opponent of change, but this level is shocking to me, and to most engineers
I know. At least some in America are rising up against the inanity of your politicians.
Ours learned long ago that the commoners will accept their divine wisdom and get along
with life as best they can. Do not believe the media when it says all of Europe hates
America. The truth is that while we love the montherland and would defend her to the
death, we sorely deisre the form of liberty and citizen action available in the U.S.
Keep up the good fight. - Cheers
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Jose Arrina
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:12 am
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Yeah a picture is worth a thousand
words...
_________________ ... Jose' Arrina
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Jose Arrina
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:32 pm
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Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:01 am Posts: 42
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LOL. Thanks to kirt for sending me this one.
_________________ ... Jose' Arrina
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Kirt Blattenberger |
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:11 am
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Greetings: Well, the editor got me upset enough to purchase the MtAiryNews.net
domain name and put up a website to fight the lunacy of aiding and abetting the illegal
activity. https://www.mtairynews.net
It's just a start, but if nobody takes a stand, then it goes unchecked. I will
eventually be adding a forum there. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it.
My dental hygenist told an interesting story yesterday. Her son was in first
grade last year in Kernersville Elementary (NC). A little more than half the class was
Hispanic, and about half of those could not speak, read, or write a word of English.
The rest of the class was severely restricted in its learning progress because of the
dang No Child Left Behind intitiative. She enrolled him in a private school this year.
Now, before you accuse me of having a bias against Hispanics, I DO NOT. I have
a bias against people in this country illegally. My ample writings on my open arms invitations
to legal immigrants from worldwide origins can be found both here and in other locations
across the Web. Your comments on the issue are welcome.
_________________ - Kirt Blattenberger
RF Cafe Progenitor & Webmaster
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Paul Chriss
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:49 pm
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I am sick of this illegal crap. I'm from NC like you,
from around Raleigh. We had a story in the paper recently that reported the main Chapel
Hill hospital had more than 50% of its births to illegals in 2007. It talked about the
Medicad, federal and state subsidies that paid for the care, as well as for a car seat,
diapers, baby formuls, etc. Then there's the prenatal and newborn care that's all provided
on my substantial tax dollars (I paid more than $15k to the state last year, $25 to
the Fed). It said that most of the women are there having their second, third or fourth
Jackpot Babies.
I read the info on the MtAiryNews.net website and you're right
Kirt about this has to stop. It's good to see someone in the public eye like you are
taking a stand, because us little guys don't have a voice.
You'd better watch your back though, because with the MS-13 and other Hispanic gangs
moving into the area, you could be targeted for a driveby shooting.
Seriously,
be careful bro!
PC (sorry, but I was born with those initials!)
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Curtis Crow
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:22 am
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Here's another one for you to ponder.
From the Tampa Tribune:
"Parkland
Memorial Hospital in Dallas [is] the second busiest maternity ward in the U.S. In 2006,
70 percent of the women giving birth in Parkland were illegal immigrants. That added
up to 11,200 babies for which Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million to deliver these babies,
the feds another $9.5 million and Dallas taxpayers tossed in $31.3 million...
By law, illegal immigrants cannot be denied medical care based on their inability
to pay or their immigration status. These women also receive free prenatal care, medication,
car seats, bottles, diapers and formula."
Our country is under seige and the
pathetic business owners buy this slave labor and pass the helath care and living costs
on to everybody else. That's why both Rs and Ds are guilty of the problem. It will take
an uprising of the legal citizens to stop it. It will take people boycotting those businesses.
But hey, they're comfortable with all our production going to China and our
Air Force tankers being designed and built in France (oh, and partially assembled in
America), so why would they be willing to inconvenience themselves for anything?
All I can say is when the s**t hits the fan, my neighbors can fend for themselves,
because I know they aren't doing anything to help now.
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