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RF-Ban
Post subject: Help : Theses or Work ?? Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:35 pm

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Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
hello everybody,
i need help of sme experienced people, i am a french student ending my master degree in RF in france. Today i have two opportunities which are not definitive i've been proposed a Theses (PhD) after this year in a very innovative domain : study,modelling and conception unsing transistor of hundreds of GHz or as i'm currently in internship, i can be hired as an engineer. So my question is for everywhere in the world but overall for France for an industrial carreer i a PhD an advantage is it "useful" or can it be an handicap after in my job research? For a carreer in the industry is it really worse to spend 3 years in theses in term of work and salary ?? I thank you very much for your answers.

Franck


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Guest
Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:20 pm
Hello Franck,

I think that you should ask yourself where you want to see yourself in 3 years from now: As a Project Leader in the industry or as a Research Assistant or Junior Professor in the university. I assuume that these options will happen in each path after 3 years. My advice is that you should first try the industry, because it is something different from what you have done so far (university) and then you can know better what is good for you - after all you can always return and do you Ph.D (The university will always be there and your right for Ph.D won't be taken away from you).

Good luck in whatever you choose!


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RF-Ban
Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:15 am

Captain

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
the thing is that i see myself as a project leader in industry and i have been said that PhD help evoluating to managing position. And the subject is really interesting. So i wonder if 3 years Ph.D will help me evoluate more quickly in positions, if it's in general something more searched by firms in hiring procedure or will it stuck me as it seems to me that in France some firms prefer to hire someone with a MSEE rather than one with a PHD because of the wages.

Franck


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Guest
Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:56 am
I think that there is no substantial difference between MSEE and Ph.D for the position of Project Leader. You should taker a break from the academy and work few years in the industry mostly for implementing the academic knowledge you gained. Then you will have broader vision about what you really want to do. Maybe you will even decide that you have had enough with university.


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Jeanalmira
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:01 am

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Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:43 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Singapore
Hi all.

Yes I agree, maybe you should consider to work in industry for sometimes, because I believe that the chance for Phd studies is always there. and if you choose the same field in your work, it'll be helpful somehow in doing research.
Which, the objective of research is to benefit industry right?

Because in industry, you will learn "real" problems, that includes how to deal with colleagues, peer-to-peer relations, how to relate with vendors, customers and superordinates, which are somehow important to be a project leader or managing position.

anyway, just my 2-cents of thoughts.
wishing you all the best in any decision u take..

Cheers,
Jean


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RF-Ban
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:02 am

Captain

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
Thank you for those answers.
for precision in france we have a kind of Ph.D which is done among a firm and that is what is proposed that's to say 2 years while i'll do research in a lab and in a firm and after, 1 year, when i'll be working only in the firm, i'll have to build models, and design circuits to show performances of transistors. That's why i also hesitate it's in a firm also. and the main thing is that from what i heard HR manager, in france are not always enthusiastic in hiring PhD. That's why i'd like to know if it's exact and the same abroad and in France.


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RF_guy
Post subject: Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:35 pm
Hi RF-Ban,

which sounds better to a hiring manager... fresh phd, or MS with 3 yrs of experience in the industry...its the latter...ofcourse to advance further you need higher degrees, which you can get netime...

its diffuicult to get in the industry.. but once u r in...theres no stopping u...
i dont knw if u want to stay in france or move out elsewhere cuz i dont think i've heard much of france and RF together....

rest is up to u.. all the best


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RF-Ban
Post subject: Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:10 am

Captain

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
thanx very much everybody, those replies help me now set my priority among proposition.
I'll give priority to jobs and experience. Now the thing will be what will come first. I've already been proposed the these unofficially but have to wait the post is really opened. and i'm still in internship. so i'll see what will come first.

Franck






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