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Post subject: I've changed my mind...Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:06 am


Joined: Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:59 pm

Posts: 13

Location: Boston

Hey Kirt, have any of these bum recruiters ever paid you a referral fee yet?

Probably not. They're a bunch of skunks that'll lie about being honest and promise you the moon. A friend just got screwed by a recruiter, so my fairly recent defense of them has been proven unworthy.

I'll never deal with a recruiter again and recommend no one else does either. Stick with direct contacts with hiring managers and even HR departments are MUCH better than ANY recruiter.

I'd like to see the whole bunch of them go back to driving taxis.

Any of you recruiters here want to defend yourselves? Bunch of wusses.

Call it Maxwell's Equation to success.



Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:59 am


Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:31 pm

Posts: 32

Location: Baltimore, MD

Max, I worked with a recruiter to get my current job and it worked very well. I got an interview much more quickly than I could have on my own and he offered some good tips for interviewing and salary negotiation. I laugh at how much of a fee my company probably had to pay the recruiter, but that wasn't my problem.

Like anything, though, you've got to find a good recruiter that specializes in your industry. You should never have to pay a dime to a recruiter.

Any recruiter that cold calls you is likely a loser. Treat it as if you were up for murder and you were looking for a lawyer. Don't just pick the one with the most ads on TV, pick the one that has experience and proven results for cases like yours.

And always remember that a recruiter is looking out for himself, not for you. But, you can use his help when you both have a cooperative goal.



Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:25 am


Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 2:06 pm

Posts: 4

Location: Land of Opporunities, USA

Very rightly said Kanling!





Post subject: Defense!Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:14 am

Ok, I just have to say that there will always be a bad seed in every group of people you deal with. You can't judge ALL recruiters based on ONE experience that you have. That's like saying you'll never eat fruit again because you had a sour grape....

There are plenty of recruiters out there (like myself) that take their job very seriously and are ethical in their daily actions/decision. I'm so sorry that you had to deal with one that wasn't that way but I do hope you'll reconsider having a recruiter as an ally vs enemy...



Post subject: Re: Defense!Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:47 pm


Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:47 am

Posts: 47

Location: Santa Barbara, CA

recruiterextreme wrote:

That's like saying you'll never eat fruit again because you had a sour grape.....

That is total BS. It is really more like saying you think you like grapes because you had one once that was good when MOST are sour. Don't fool yourself - your industry is chock FULL of turds. You folks have the reputation you have because, for the most part, it is deserved.



Post subject: Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:01 pm


Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:56 pm

Posts: 1

kanling -Do you mind giving me the contact information of the recruiter that you worked with ? I am BSEE in RF looking for employment. I have been looking for an RF recruiter with a proven track record for quite sometime now but no luck yet. I can be reached at snoopur@umich.edu. thanks



Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:54 pm


Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:31 pm

Posts: 32

Location: Baltimore, MD

Sorry, he is long gone... the recruiting company went out of business when the bubble burst... I have no idea where the recruiters went. This was over five years ago.

I don't think there are as many good recruiters around these days, companies aren't as willing to spend extra money these days and the web sites like Monster are just too popular.

You used to see recruiting companies in the trade magazines. I haven't seen many lately.



Post subject: Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:35 pm

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Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:02 pm

Posts: 373

Location: Germany

It all depends on the recruiter as some of you mentioned. I had experience seeing both types of recruiters. A recent recruiter that I was in contact with was very helpful and kind. She gave me really good tips and advice and the interview was really good. Another recruiter was a total jerk. He and me got into a quarrel through the email. I swear that if he was near me I would choke him to death...really a mentally retard guy So in the end-effect like mentioned, in any population there are good and bad parts. The recruiters can't be judged as a whole according to one bad or good individual/example.


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