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AP
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Post subject: Most of the posts in Miscellaneous are racist neo-con
rants?
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:54 pm
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In your opinion, is this symptomatic of those who
work in RF? Personally, my coworkers are nothing
like you guys - but maybe I'm the exception?
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kpainter |
Post subject: Re: Most of the posts in Miscellaneous are racist neo-con
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:37 pm
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11:47 am Posts: 84 Location: Santa Barbara,
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AP wrote:
maybe I'm the exception?
What? Are your co-workers pinko commie leftists?
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AP |
Post subject: Re: Most of the posts in Miscellaneous are racist neo-con
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:56 pm
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kpainter wrote:
AP wrote:
maybe I'm the exception?
What? Are your co-workers pinko commie leftists?
haha I bet according to the posters here
they are!
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Brad |
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:20 pm
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If it's America hating and Bush bashing you long
for, try the RF Globalnet forum. There, you'll get
all the pro Palestinian, pro Al Queda, and pro everything
but America that you could hope for. If you want
racists, go there and eat up.
What you see
here is some folks pointing out the hypocracy and
double standards of the type you evidently long
for. Now that the Old Media doesn't dictate what
news gets out anymore, a lot of the old guard is
feeling pretty vulnerable. Get used to it. You days
are gone.
Brad Chase (yes, my real name)
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Guest |
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:46 pm
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Brad wrote:
If it's America hating and Bush bashing
you long for,
try the RF Globalnet forum. There,
you'll get
all the pro Palestinian, pro Al Queda, and pro
everything but America
that you could
hope for. If you want racists, go there
and eat up.
What you see here is some
folks pointing out the hypocracy and double
standards of
the type you evidently long for. Now
that the Old Media doesn't dictate what news
gets out anymore, a lot of the old guard is
feeling pretty vulnerable. Get used to it.
You days are
gone.
Brad Chase (yes, my real
name)
you know, I didn't express any views at
all in the original post. You're inferring all that.
You seem a bit defensive. And angry. But, since
you're kind-of proving my point about the forum,
I don't mind.
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Guest |
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:48 am
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Anonymous wrote:
you know, I didn't express any views at all
in the original post. You're inferring all that.
You seem a bit defensive. And angry. But, since
you're kind-of proving my point about the forum,
I don't mind.
Uh, what about your subject line?
"Most of the
posts in Miscellaneous are racist neo-con rants?"
You really trying to say you weren't impugning
anyone and inviting an arguement? Dude, you're
an idiot. Your friend, Brad
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AP |
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:17 pm
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
you know, I didn't express any views at
all in the original post. You're inferring
all that. You seem a bit defensive. And
angry. But, since you're kind-of proving
my point about the forum, I don't mind.
Uh, what about your subject line?
"Most of
the posts in Miscellaneous are racist neo-con
rants?"You really trying to say
you weren't impugning anyone and inviting an
arguement? Dude, you're an idiot.
Your friend, Brad
Haha I've got to give you points for trying,
but I hardly think that pointing out racist rants
on an internet forum makes me "pro Al Queda."
But, leaving your amusingly exaggerated accusations
aside, why is this forum like this? I've always
thought that engineering was an inclusive profession
- when I sit down to a meeting, often times everyone
at the table was born in a different country, and
so I assumed that other workplaces were like that.
Certainly my university was. But then you come on
this forum, and it's like the 1950s all over again.
Why is this? Is it that people like to talk big
on the Internet? Or, is it like in my initial question
- are your workplaces really like this?
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Brad |
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Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:53 pm
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So AP, just exactly what is racist in "this" forum?
Please provide a couple of examples. Neo-conservatives
are, by definition, "new" conservatives. Just what
is your problem with conservativism? Do you have
a problem with Muslim conservatives that, in all
honesty, would prefer to saw your head off on TV
because you you are an infidel?
I submit
that you look in the mirror to see the bigot closest
to you.
Brad.
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AP |
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:42 am
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Brad wrote:
Do you have a problem with Muslim conservatives
that, in all honesty, would prefer to saw your
head off on TV because you you are an infidel?
Where on earth do you get these things from??
From pro al Qaida / anti everything but America
to Muslim conservatives sawing my head off - I have
a feeling that we're not really debating the same
issues here. So, for everyone else browsing
this trainwreck of a post: Do you have lunch-time
discussions with your coworkers that could be described
as similar in tone to the posts here? Do you feel
that this forum area is representative of the types
of people one works with in RF?
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PJ |
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:59 pm
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AP, I'm going to have to go with Mr. Brad on this
one. To answer your question, yes, my mates and
I do discuss such issues, at lunch and in the lab.
But, I live in a Red state (actually, even the Blue
states are mostly red in a county-by-county map),
so you would probably expect that.
The thing
with your type is that you routinely open a topic
of discussion with a thinly veiled swipe at a group
of people, and then feign surprise and hurt when
anything is thrown back at you. You try to make
the target of your attack look like the aggressor.
After reading your posts, I did a quick look
at the topics here. If you take the time to look
at the posters' comments, most of what you probably
refer to has links to news articles that directly
support the posters' topic title theme and text.
I do not see racism being committed here, but do
see a lot of racism being pointed to. I think that's
what bothers you - exposure by an unbribled New
Media whereas a decade ago only your antiquated
views on the world were presented. The fraud of
the Old Media has been exposed amply over the last
couple years.
As the saying from Mrs. Roosevelt
goes, "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of
the kitchen."
PJ
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AP |
Post subject:
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:25 pm
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Hi PJ, thanks for your response. Yes, I admit the
question was posed in a very provocative manner,
but I was just really quite surprised by what I
saw on this board - if I were to talk about repatriating
muslims, or the justifications for japanese internment,
it would be a pretty chilly coffee break at my workplace,
that's for sure. But then, I have both muslim and
japanese coworkers, which maybe the posters of this
forum don't have (although, I would hope that one
doesn't have to be muslim, or japanese, to be offended
by that). One thing that I don't really understand
is both your and Brad's mentions of New vs. Old
Media - I routinely read both online forums ("new
media") as well as more traditional news (newspapers),
but my objection here is to the content, not the
format, so I'm not really sure what you mean by
that.
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Joe |
Post subject: Conservatives
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:03 pm
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Brad wrote:
Neo-conservatives are, by definition, "new"
conservatives. Just what is your problem with
conservativism? Brad.
I have no problem with conservatives. I
am one. Neo-conservatives are not "new"
conservatives. They are not newly joined members
of the conservative movement. Many have called themselves
"conservative" for twenty or thirty years. What
is new is their ideology. The core of conservatism
is limited federal government and strict interpretation
of the Constitution. Neither of which is an element
of Neo-conservatism. Neo-conservatism is an oxymoron.
They are "big government" conservatives with over-reaching
foreign policy objectives including Nation building.
"Nation building" was rightly condemded by conservatives
when Clinton was doing it and it should be condemned
now also.
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