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E-goe
Post subject: Microwave oscillators
Unread postPosted:
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:40 pm
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Hi
I designed a Microwave
oscillator with the "Negative resistance method" as described in Gonzalez.
But when I tested the oscillator it resonates at2.6GHz in stead
of 4Ghz (my goal). Oke I know that with this method the fundamental
freq. can deviate a little from the designed one. But so MUCH.......
Can anbody give an explanation for this.
Is it because I'm
using small signal S-parameters (as mentioned in the datasheet) ? Maybe
I need to use Large signal S parameters?
Output power of the
osc. is 13dBm
Greetz E-goe
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Guest
Post subject: Re: Microwave oscillators
Unread postPosted:
Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:40 am
E-goe wrote:
Hi
I designed
a Microwave oscillator with the "Negative resistance method" as described
in Gonzalez.
But when I tested the oscillator it resonates at2.6GHz
in stead of 4Ghz (my goal). Oke I know that with this method the fundamental
freq. can deviate a little from the designed one. But so MUCH.......
Can anbody give an explanation for this.
Is it because I'm
using small signal S-parameters (as mentioned in the datasheet) ? Maybe
I need to use Large signal S parameters?
Output power of the
osc. is 13dBm
Greetz E-goe
Have you called your
local radio shack yet? There's some very knowledgable people there that
might be able to help!
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joe
Post subject:
oscillator
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:57 am
Did
you check the analysis at 2.6 GHz? The frequency with the better oscillation
conditions will be where the oscillation occurs.
Large signal
S-parameters would be preferred for the analysis, but small signal will
still provide the correct starting conditions. When the oscillation
starts, the frequency may shift due to the change from small to large
signal.
Large signal S-parameters or non-linear models are available
for some devices, but not for all. Contact the manufacturer for availability.
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E-goe
Post subject: Microwave oscillator
Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:43 am
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Maybe it is because
I had to add an extra feedback capacitor from Gate to Drain to make
the transistor unstable.
In doing this I had to add an extra
transmission line to get from the gate to the drain to add the feedback
capacitor.(this is because the gate and drain are on the opposite side
of the transistor).
So maybe this extra transmission lines have
a serious influence on the S-parameters and so the resonating frequency
has changed that much.
Any comments, suggestion how to solve
this problem????
Any "Microwave" thaughts are welcome
Greetz E-goe
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Guest
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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:09 am
Try re-designing
the oscillator with the modified S-parameters. In other words you saind
you had to apply feedback to make the device unstable. So, using the
simulator generate a new set of S-parameters which take the feed back
into account. The use these S-parameters and redesign the network to
see where the new resonance occurs.
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Guest
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Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 10:21 am
Did you?
1) Simulate every single component of your circuit
interconnection?
2) Estimate the parasitic inductance of the
leads of devices optimisticly?
This might explain this big deviation...
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Otman
Post subject: Re: Microwave oscillators
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:55 pm
I am designing a
microwave scillator using NE71038 at frequency 2.45 GHz. so I have some
problems. I would like to get an oscillator example from anyone who
has an example of oscillator using FET,
thanks
E-goe wrote:
Hi
I designed a Microwave oscillator with the "Negative resistance
method" as described in Gonzalez.
But when I tested the oscillator
it resonates at2.6GHz in stead of 4Ghz (my goal). Oke I know that with
this method the fundamental freq. can deviate a little from the designed
one. But so MUCH.......
Can anbody give an explanation for this.
Is it because I'm using small signal S-parameters (as mentioned
in the datasheet) ? Maybe I need to use Large signal S parameters?
Output power of the osc. is 13dBm
Greetz E-goe
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Guest
Post subject: Re: Microwave oscillators
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:07 pm
I am designing a
microwave scillator using NE71038 at frequency 2.45 GHz. so I have some
problems. I would like to get an oscillator example from anyone who
has an example of oscillator using FET,
email: omrabet@hotmail.com
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