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Post subject: filter design Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:52 pm
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:45 pm
When designing an interdigital or a combline
bandpass filter in stripline, I frequently have a S21 dip, about 0.5
to 0.8dB in magnitude, near either low side or high side of the passband.
For example, if the passband is 900MHz to 1.3GHz, this dip may occur
at around 990MHz or 1.22GHz. There is a corresponding S11 spike at the
same frequencies. What causes this? Can anyone enlighten me on this?
Post subject: Posted: Tue
Mar 06, 2007 6:28 am
Joined: Fri Feb 17,
2006 12:07 pm
Location: London UK
will always happen when using an ellyptic function or a Chebychev design,
and it is due to internal resonant paths within the structure.
Constant Phase types avoid this, but have a slower roll-off for the
same number of elements.
The attenuation variation (S21) across the
band for a Chebychev should never exceed the design ripple factor (eg.
0.25dB) by any more than the small margin for dissipation due to finite
Q values of the elements. If you are looking for maximum stop band roll-off
rate, choose ripple factor at say 1.0dB, and that will be the variation
limit across the band.
Note also that the -3dB bandwidth and the
equal ripple bandwidth are different from each other, which is warning
you that between the ripple factor frequency and the -3dB frequency
the S21 (and S11) will vary wildly. There is a formula relating them,
but I will have to look for it.