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Post subject: matching circuit Posted: Tue May 23, 2006
Joined: Thu May 18, 2006 9:46 am
I have a hard time to get a feeling for matching circuits.
can anyone explain to me where I am wrong in the following thoughts:
I want to match a real 25 Ohm load to a real 50 Ohm source. I know I
can do an LC circuit and I am fine. But, if instead - in theory - I
add a 25 Ohm serial resistor, there would be no reflexions back into
the source since the total load can be calculated to be 50 Ohms, right?
I know, I would waste power in the additional 25 Ohm resistor due to
heat. However, if I count the 25 Ohm resistor towards the source, there
would be a 75 Ohm source resistance that sees a 25 Ohm load. This is
not matched anymore and I would expect reflexions. Where am I thinking
in the wrong direction here?
I know this is a very trivail question
but I would really appreciate some comments.
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:28
Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 7:37 am
Hello Mr. Bamatom:
In case you haven't seen it, I addressed
your question of a few days ago in the Antennas forum, and if you don't
mind I'll have a shot at this one, too.
As you suggest, when
matching two purely resistlve circuits, only resistors are required.
LC is only needed when imaginary parts are involved, or is a "lossless"
transformation is required. The lossless case needs basically just a
an inductive transformer. The LC solution will, by nature, be frequency
dependent wereas the resistive soultion is, theorectically (but not
in practice) independent of frequency.
Also as you suspect, attempting
to match with a simple 25 ohm series resistor does not solve the problem.
What you need is a classic 3-resistor "T" or "pi" formation pad. I just
looked it up here on this website and there is an excellent calculator
with equations available. There is a minimum attenuation associated
with the resistive transformation wich in the case of 25 - to - 50 ohms,
works out to 7.66 dB. It allows for unequal soruce and load resistances.
You will want to look it over.
Post subject: Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:23 am
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:19 am
50ohm source and a 25ohm load.
you add a 25ohm series resistor
and the circuit is matched, less some power. Your source now see's 25ohms
in series with a 25ohm load = 50ohms.
Sounds good to me, what's
the big whoop?
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:43 am
Thu May 04, 2006 7:37 am
and a 25ohm load.
you add a 25ohm series resistor and the circuit
is matched, less some power. Your source now see's 25ohms in series
with a 25ohm load = 50ohms.
Sounds good to me, what's the big
Well, it depends on whether you want
both the source and load to be matched from both of their perspectives.
Adding the 25 ohm resistor in series causes the original 25 ohm load
to "see" 75 ohms connected to it, while the 50 ohm load does now indeed
"see" 50 ohms. The only way to make both the load and the source happy
is to insert an impedence transformer (or in this cas a minimum loss
subject: Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 2:18 pm
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 1:19 am
yeah, that's what I meant