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RF-Ban
Post subject: Help : Theses or Work ?? Posted: Mon Apr 25,
2005 4:35 pm
Captain
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
hello everybody,
i need
help of sme experienced people, i am a french student ending my master
degree in RF in france. Today i have two opportunities which are not
definitive i've been proposed a Theses (PhD) after this year in a very
innovative domain : study,modelling and conception unsing transistor
of hundreds of GHz or as i'm currently in internship, i can be hired
as an engineer. So my question is for everywhere in the world but overall
for France for an industrial carreer i a PhD an advantage is it "useful"
or can it be an handicap after in my job research? For a carreer in
the industry is it really worse to spend 3 years in theses in term of
work and salary ?? I thank you very much for your answers.
Franck
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Guest
Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005
10:20 pm
Hello Franck,
I think that you should ask yourself
where you want to see yourself in 3 years from now: As a Project Leader
in the industry or as a Research Assistant or Junior Professor in the
university. I assuume that these options will happen in each path after
3 years. My advice is that you should first try the industry, because
it is something different from what you have done so far (university)
and then you can know better what is good for you - after all you can
always return and do you Ph.D (The university will always be there and
your right for Ph.D won't be taken away from you).
Good luck
in whatever you choose!
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RF-Ban
Post subject:
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:15 am
Captain
Joined: Sat
Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
the
thing is that i see myself as a project leader in industry and i have
been said that PhD help evoluating to managing position. And the subject
is really interesting. So i wonder if 3 years Ph.D will help me evoluate
more quickly in positions, if it's in general something more searched
by firms in hiring procedure or will it stuck me as it seems to me that
in France some firms prefer to hire someone with a MSEE rather than
one with a PHD because of the wages.
Franck
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Guest
Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:56 am
I think that there is no substantial difference between MSEE and Ph.D
for the position of Project Leader. You should taker a break from the
academy and work few years in the industry mostly for implementing the
academic knowledge you gained. Then you will have broader vision about
what you really want to do. Maybe you will even decide that you have
had enough with university.
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Jeanalmira
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subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:01 am
General
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:43 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Singapore
Hi all.
Yes I agree, maybe you should consider to work in
industry for sometimes, because I believe that the chance for Phd studies
is always there. and if you choose the same field in your work, it'll
be helpful somehow in doing research.
Which, the objective of research
is to benefit industry right?
Because in industry, you will
learn "real" problems, that includes how to deal with colleagues, peer-to-peer
relations, how to relate with vendors, customers and superordinates,
which are somehow important to be a project leader or managing position.
anyway, just my 2-cents of thoughts.
wishing you all the best
in any decision u take..
Cheers,
Jean
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RF-Ban
Post subject: Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 7:02 am
Captain
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille, FRANCE
Thank you for those answers.
for precision
in france we have a kind of Ph.D which is done among a firm and that
is what is proposed that's to say 2 years while i'll do research in
a lab and in a firm and after, 1 year, when i'll be working only in
the firm, i'll have to build models, and design circuits to show performances
of transistors. That's why i also hesitate it's in a firm also. and
the main thing is that from what i heard HR manager, in france are not
always enthusiastic in hiring PhD. That's why i'd like to know if it's
exact and the same abroad and in France.
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RF_guy
Post subject: Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:35 pm
Hi RF-Ban,
which sounds better to a hiring manager... fresh phd, or MS with
3 yrs of experience in the industry...its the latter...ofcourse to advance
further you need higher degrees, which you can get netime...
its diffuicult to get in the industry.. but once u r in...theres no
stopping u...
i dont knw if u want to stay in france or move out
elsewhere cuz i dont think i've heard much of france and RF together....
rest is up to u.. all the best
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RF-Ban
Post subject: Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:10 am
Captain
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:24 pm
Posts: 16
Location: Lille,
FRANCE
thanx very much everybody, those replies help me now set
my priority among proposition.
I'll give priority to jobs and experience.
Now the thing will be what will come first. I've already been proposed
the these unofficially but have to wait the post is really opened. and
i'm still in internship. so i'll see what will come first.
Franck
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