Search RFCafe.com                           
      More Than 17,000 Unique Pages
Please support me by ADVERTISING!
Serving a Pleasant Blend of Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow™ Please Support My Advertisers!
   Formulas & Data
Electronics | RF
Mathematics
Mechanics | Physics
     AI-Generated
     Technical Data
Pioneers | Society
Companies | Parts
Principles | Assns


 About | Sitemap
Homepage Archive
        Resources
Articles, Forums Calculators, Radar
Magazines, Museum
Radio Service Data
Software, Videos
     Entertainment
Crosswords, Humor Cogitations, Podcast
Quotes, Quizzes
   Parts & Services
1000s of Listings
 Vintage Magazines
Electronics World
Popular Electronics
Radio & TV News
QST | Pop Science
Popular Mechanics
Radio-Craft
Radio-Electronics
Short Wave Craft
Electronics | OFA
Saturday Eve Post

Software: RF Cascade Workbook
RF Stencils Visio | RF Symbols Visio
RF Symbols Office | Cafe Press
Espresso Engineering Workbook

Aegis Power  |  Alliance Test
Centric RF  |  Empower RF
ISOTEC  |  Reactel  |  RFCT
San Fran Circuits

Exodus Advanced Communications Best in Class RF Amplifier SSPAs

everythingRF RF & Microwave Parts Database (h1)

LadyBug RF Power Sensors

Please Support RF Cafe by purchasing my  ridiculously low-priced products, all of which I created.

RF Cascade Workbook for Excel

RF & Electronics Symbols for Visio

RF & Electronics Symbols for Office

RF & Electronics Stencils for Visio

RF Workbench

T-Shirts, Mugs, Cups, Ball Caps, Mouse Pads

These Are Available for Free

Espresso Engineering Workbook™

Smith Chart™ for Excel

Temwell Filters

MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it? - RF Cafe Forums

The original RF Cafe Forums were shut down in late 2012 due to maintenance issues - primarily having to spend time purging garbage posts from the board. At some point I might start the RF Cafe Forums again if the phpBB software gets better at filtering spam.

Below are the old forum threads, including responses to the original posts.

-- Amateur Radio
-- Anecdotes, Gripes & Humor
-- Antennas
-- CAE, CAD, & Software
-- Circuits & Components
-- Employment & Interviews
-- Miscellany
-- Swap Shop
-- Systems
-- Test & Measurement
-- Webmaster

wb9jtk
 Post subject: MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it?
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:51 am 
 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:39 pm
Posts: 21
I don't know when it started, but it was being worked on in early 1951. I do not know if it was an acronym or a project name, but it was always all-capital letters. Has anyone here ever heard of MULDAR ?


 
   
 
wb9jtk
 Post subject: Re: MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:27 pm 
 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:39 pm
Posts: 21
aha ! Just de-classified....
This is, I infer, related to the Bedford Experiments (Cape Cod Experiments) to use Whirlwind computer to track invading aircraft. Page 2 mentions a suspension in experiments due to engine trouble of the B-25 in which the airborne equipment is located., mentions interuption because an F-51 was sent for repairs. Also talks about sending 3 sets of radar data per phone line.

1 February 1952
Memorandum M-1389
Digital Computer Laboratory
M.I.T.
http://dome.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.3/39384/MC665_r06_M-1389.pdfhttp://dome.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.3/39384/MC665_r06_M-1389.pdf page 7.

An outline has been written up for a set of programs which will allow us to test parts of the Cape Cod Muldar Program before the magnetic drum equipment arrives from E.R.A. The proposal is to record on magnetic tape blocks of filtered radar data from 1, 2, or 3 radar sets. The computer would carry out the necessary filtering and recording operations. A second program would then be read into the computer which would process the radar data on the magnetic tape, a block at a time. In this way, the processing program could be completely7 divorced from real time, allowing us a great deal of flexibility in testing various information processing methods.


 
   
 
wb9jtk
 Post subject: Re: MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it?
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:02 pm 
 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:39 pm
Posts: 21
And now that I know what terms to search on, this de-classified document explains it all....


Quote:
Muldar System. Clutter Elimination by the Use of Narrow Band Video plus Frame to Frame Storage and Filtering at the Central Point; Harrington, J. V., September 28, 1951,


 
   
 
Jessica
 Post subject: Re: MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it?
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:58 am 
 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:50 am
Posts: 5
Very interesting, but what on earth caused you to search for information on the Muldar system? Now that you know, what will you do with it? Are you writing a book?

BTW, what does Muldar stand for? Is it a person's name, or some acronym where the "dar" part is from "radar?"

_________________
Thanks,
Jess


 
   
 
wb9jtk
 Post subject: Re: MULDAR ? an early 50's project - Ever heard of it?
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:38 am 
 
Captain
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:39 pm
Posts: 21
I am doing research for a book. I am going through notebooks of Dudley Allen Buck who died in 1959 at age 32.

His public image was that he worked developing computer components, including the cryotron. However he was doing much more interesting stuff than just computer components. Going through documents we find that as a consultant to the N.S.A. he was working with some pretty interesting people.

One of the names in his notebook was located and I had a discussion with him. His first job for the NSA was trying to fix a distribution system for the clock in a 3 MHz computer in 1952. A time when 'fast' computers used a clock of one or two hundred kilohertz. I am finding other very interesting things.

I am surprised how much of this stuff is STILL classified for national security.






Posted  11/12/2012
Temwell Filters
Innovative Power Products (IPP) RF Combiners / Dividers

withwave microwave devices - RF Cafe

ConductRF Phased Matched RF Cables - RF Cafe