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Post subject: VNA Reference Plane
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:17 am
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Joined: Tue Jan 06, 2004
1:51 pm Posts: 26 |
I need some clarification about the reference plane
for on-wafer calibration & measurement using
VNA and probe Station.
Can someone please
tell me what determines the reference plane? How
is it defined? Does it have to do with the dimensions
of DUT and calibration artifacts?
Any info
will be appreciated.
- Brad
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balajisu
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Post subject: vna reference plane
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:57 pm
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Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005
5:54 pm Posts: 28 Location: Germantown,MD
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Hi
We choose the reference planes to calibrate
out the additional structures like cables,pads,transmission
lines etc., so that the data that we measure would
be the data for the DUT being measured.
Once reference planes are fixed we can use appropriate
math to calculate the S-parameters of the structure
within the reference planes.
hope i answered
your query in the right direction
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jvmagnus
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Post subject: 50 ohm reference question
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:21 pm
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Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005
6:08 pm Posts: 1 Location: Portland, Maine
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I need to calibrate a test fixture at a probe test
point. I've built the fixture and the DUT looks
about like an 0805 chip resistor (it isn't a resistor,
but the physical size is representative). So, I
need a similar chip which measures 50 ohms so I
can calibrate the whole structure. I've read that
50 ohm chip resistors are not good things to use
for this, and are only useful to about 500 MHz.
I'm working around 1GHz. Anyone have ideas on how
I can do this?
Thanks, John
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Yariv3G
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Post subject: Re: 50 ohm reference question
Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:39 am
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Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2006
4:06 am Posts: 8 |
Hi John, Did you got a reply on your question?
I might facing the same issue. We build our own
calibration structure but know I want to evaluate
them against commercial calibration structures.
Did you consider to order calibration structures
according to your footprint? Can you send me the
article that suggests not to use in high frequency
such a resistor? Best Regards Yariv3G
_________________ R&S RF Application
Engineer
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ConstantWave
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Post subject: Re: VNA Reference Plane
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:14 am
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010
9:52 am Posts: 1 |
You might want to look at our product, Spectro VNA.
Using Time Domain Substitution, you can move your
reference plane to anywhere that you can temporarily
create a short.
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SunshineDesign
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Post subject: Re: VNA Reference Plane
Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:33 pm
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Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2008
11:35 pm Posts: 30 Location: Ramona, CA
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I recommend reading the Agilent app notes 8510-52
(PN5956-4352) and 8510-8A (PN5091-3645). The first
is specifying calibration standards and the 2nd
is using TRL standards for On-Wafer measurements.
The calibration reference plane is defined by the
physical structures and the definitions for the
standards. It is typically set by the offset length
of the thru, short and open. The TRL cal is better
than SOLT (Short, Open, Load and Thru) for On-Wafer,
but is suseptable to dispersion effects on GaAs
below 1GHz and the lines become reactive. Agilent
recommended LRM as the Load sets the reference impedance
and On_wafer test results will be much better. Again
the cal kit definition along with the physical structures
will determine the reference plane. Also if using
LRM be sure to measure the resistance of the loads
and put into the cal kit so the measurment plane
impedance is properly defined. The reference plane
is usually either of two methods. In some cal kits
they define the reference plane to be at the halfway
point on the thru. The second and more typically
used is to de-embed the reference plane back to
some point (connection ground plane) or the probe
tips or some other point on the launch structure
or out on the line (mid point) for mechanical fixtures.
I've used all the methods and it depends on what
I am measuring which method I use.
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